Official Watchmen Argument Thread (Spoilers)


#1

Ozymandias gets the world to think Dr. M. was to blame for some massive explosions, thus forcing Russia and the US to make peace against Dr. M, who goes into space after the movie to become God and make some life himself. Also, Rorschach’s journal is found by a newspaper after he is silenced by Dr. M. to protect the lie, which means the whole ending is probably in vain anyways.

Now that I ruined the movie for anyone stupid enough to come in here even with the title marking this thread as a spoiler zone, we can get on with the arguments.

I liked Watchmen. I don’t like Zac Snyder. 90% of the film was in slow-mo. Take out the slow-mo or limit it to once every twenty minutes at most, and the movie would have been a good hour shorter.

I definitely liked the characters and the overall plot, even if it gets a bit muddled and ends up tripping over itself several times (all the scenes of Rorschach in jail were filler, Night Owl x Silk Spectre came off as fanservice, etc.)

I also didn’t like the moral. Killing millions of people, killing anyone, is A-OK if you save more lives than what you destroy? I can’t buy into that. A murderer is a murderer.

I also felt that the “new, film-only” ending was ripped off from TDK. Using a lie to protect people, etc.

As far as sbf’s comparisons to TDK, I feel they’re way off base. TDK was too dark? A little girl was fed to dogs, Rorschach’s mom was a prostitute, it’s mentioned child pornography is practically legal, etc. So no. TDK was too long? Every scene in TDK moved the plot along. You can say the same for Watchmen, but it felt like some scenes were just needless. And unlike Watchmen, TDK doesn’t rely on slow-mo to pad things out.

Well there’s my thoughts. I’d still rate it a 7.5/10 even with my complaints.


#2

I loved the moral even if it’s been done alot. Although I could never actually do it as I didn’t even kill a single little sister in Biochock I understand that sometimes you have to kill to save.

Doesn’t make it any easier doing it but…I’d understand. >_>

Anyways I loved it got me more interesting in the universe. 9/10


#3

[quote=“sbf717”]I loved the moral even if it’s been done alot. Although I could never actually do it as I didn’t even kill a single little sister in Biochock I understand that sometimes you have to kill to save.

Doesn’t make it any easier doing it but…I’d understand. >_>

Anyways I loved it got me more interesting in the universe. 9/10[/quote]

The universe… so you’re buying the game? :lol


#4

Having played the game…no but if I had an iPod Touch I’d buy that pesudo MMO for lulz >_>


#5

The game is boring…

And Watchmen is much older than TDK.


#6

dont know how useing slowmo in a move which likely been better as a 12 part minni series on hbo sounds like a good idea

i understan not haveing the tales of the black freighter, but cutting the 2 bernies hurt it abit
but ill wait till it comes on tv before i judge . . .


#7

So, you’re arguing with me over a movie… you have yet to see…

Same old Draken. :stuck_out_tongue:


#8

[quote=“Andrex”]So, you’re arguing with me over a movie… you have yet to see…

Same old Draken. :stuck_out_tongue:[/quote]

shows how little you know me . . . i never argue . . . im just saying . . .seeing how from what i gathered, im the only one who read the book . . .but then again, this is about the movie, not about watchmen so whatever >,>


#9

Nighty and I have. Nighty rarely posts in here, though.


#10

Yes, this is about the movie. >_>


#11

You can’t say that the movie ripped TDK off when it’s based on the book, though.


#12

The ending?


#13

…Is pretty much the same as the book.

and neither ending was anything like the Dark Knight.


#14

Well then maybe I was off point on that one.

But Zac Snyder is still talentless.

However keep in mind it was Chad who started with the TDK comparisons.


#15

The only difference is that instead of framing Dr. Manhattan, Ozzy lets a Giant Squid Alien Monster loose on NYC killing millions. Pretty much everything else is the same.


#16

But the idea of taking on a lie to protect people from themselves isn’t in the book? Because that’s what I was talking about.


#17

Yes, it is in the book. That’s the basic moral of the book.


#18

OK then see post #14.


#19

Making me count all the way to 14…

Screw you.

[SPOILER]Or rather, screw Chad.[/SPOILER]


#20

wrong, sir. never compromise. not even in the face of armageddon.

you must have read it wrong . . .